Leo with Venus in Virgo having a hard time with Saturn
posted 23 September 2007
tags: leo, saturn, transit, venus, virgo

Victoria writes:I have my sun in Leo. It was really a hard period for me the last 2 years. AS never before.
Also in Love matters. The problem now is that my Venus is in Virgo. Am i going to be alone again the next 2 years????
I just cant be more depressed!!!!
Victoria honey, you have been through some very difficult transits in the past 2 years. Not just from Saturn, but also from Neptune. So it’s no wonder you’re feeling frustrated. But you are reading the astrology of it in an unhealthy way. If you perceive yourself to be Saturn’s victim, then you probably will be miserable long-term. But Saturn transits can be very good if you have the right attitude about them.
I remember Saturn transiting my Sun. It was HARD! I lost a very valuable relationship, lost my job more than once, lost friends, had no money. The list goes on.
But there was a good side— Saturn sobered me up. After Saturn transited my Sun, I started to study astrology, which helped me understand myself. And that understanding started me on the road to changing my miserable reality. My first astrology teacher, Lance Ferguson often says, it’s better to be the agent of change than the victim of change. Saturn transits impose on you the choice— are you going to admit you could have done better and work on yourself, or will you continue to suffer? What’s it gonna be? With Saturn, I realized my crummy situation was my own fault. But that also meant that I was in charge, and I could decide to continue on a miserable path, or change my course.
So how does one change her course? I think it starts with accepting and making peace with the fact that you’re not perfect and never will be. That’s a toughie. You’re a Leo, and I’m a Leo Moon, and I understand intimately how painful it is for Leo to embrace her weakness. But it immediately frees up a lot of creative energy.
With transit Saturn conjunct your natal Venus, the question is, are you going to take responsibility for creating the relationships you want, or are you going to cry and feel beaten and defeated? Are you going to blame your friends, your parents, the planets? Or are you going to try to understand why you made the decisions that led to your unhappiness. If you understand yourself, you become wiser. You don’t make those same mistakes again. And that is how, inch by inch, you change your life.
Nowadays, when I see a Saturn transit coming, I say to myself, “time to get to work.” I read the planet being transited and expect to be tested there. So I get going in advance. When Saturn entered Virgo, I started getting organized. I am working on managing my time so that I can work more effectively and get more done in less time. Because I realize that can be an issue, and if I let myself go now, serious problems are likely to arise. Saturn square my natal Saturn goosed me to take better care of my health as well.
Nowadays, I kind of like Saturn transits. I relate to Saturn as a father figure who guides me by making obvious my wrong turns, not a cosmic bugbear out to make my life miserable. Yeah, it’s hard, but I learn so much during Saturn transits. And they are not anywhere near as hard as they were before I understood Saturn.
Under a Saturn transit to Venus, the emphasis is not on the partner you get, but the partner you are. Become the person you want to marry. Become the person your dog thinks you are. :) Focus on being a good partner— confident, mature, stable, trustworthy, helpful, emotionally available, good-hearted. Focus on being the best Leo with Venus in Virgo you can be— generous, creative, modest, helpful, practical, caring. Your lower tendencies— petty criticism, perfectionism, insecurity— learn to manage them. You can’t rid yourself of them (trying to would put you back in perfectionist mode), but you can refuse to let them drive the bus.
As time passes, as you become wiser, you’ll attract the right partner to you, as if by magic. You have a wonderful chart, some very interesting transits coming up, and I know you can have a happy life, but you have to create it. It’s not going to just happen.
I think things will start to shift for you— in a good way— by the beginning of 2008. Meanwhile, get to work! Good luck.
Links:
Horoscope X-Files— Saturn conjunct Venus
Astrology Notes— Saturn conjunct Venus (this is a natal interp, but a similar message.)
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i really enjoy ur article about saturn karma,coz i am a virgo(both sun and venus in virgo),i am feeling that u talked.yes,ready to work,that’s just what i am thinking.though i have been suffered difficult relationship under huge obligations.
thanks alot.and god bless u!
iyeah from china,beijing
This descibes exactly what I’m going through as a Leo Sun with Venus in Virgo. It really has been a rough couple of years. Career wise things are looking up, but relationships have always been very hard for me to maintain, now more than ever! The men I’ve been dating just aren’t doing it for me, but I’m finding it harder to meet quality people. I hope this is a sign that things will get better….SOON! Thank you!
Sometimes I wonder about saturn. When saturn in transit hit my venus I inherited almost 20,000. Rewards? The other connections in the chart were also significant, like who it came from. Saturn is justice, good or bad, this lifetime or another. Then when saturn went through Leo (ruling parks) it wiped out a number of huge parks or almost did. Like Stanley Park, Vancouver and Kelowna and the bugs. What kind of justice was that about? I’m still wondering. The good news is I’m an earth sign so things are going to get more earthy in Virgo so I can relate. Yay!
Hi Charlotte— re the parks, I don’t see Saturn as justice, more like cause & effect.
THank you for what you wrote about Saturn conjuncting Venus. I am currently experiencing this transit. While I haven’t exactly lost the opportunity for relationships, I have decided to take a step back from dating to work on myself so that when I do decide to start dating again, I can be in a better place so that my relationships will be successful. I didn’t realize it was Satrun conjunct natal Venus prompting me to do this until I read this!
Excellent, Julie. It’s good to hear from someone with a positive outlook & constructive attitude.
Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Leo 7°13’28 in house 12 direct
Moon Taurus 24°49’04 in house 9 direct
Mercury Cancer 17°41’16 in house 11 direct
Venus Virgo 12°36’02 in house 1 direct
Mars Scorpio 5°35’07 in house 2 direct
Jupiter Leo 13°37’25 in house 12 direct
Saturn Aries 12°25’57 in house 8 stationary ®
Uranus Virgo 21°56’40 in house 1 direct
Neptune Scorpio 21°35’04 in house 3 stationary (D)
Pluto Virgo 18°55’53 in house 1 direct
True Node Taurus 2°04’35 in house 8 retrograde
House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Virgo 4°37’48
2nd House Libra 4°31’45
3rd House Scorpio 5°45’26
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 6°16’47
5th House Capricorn 5°38’08
6th House Aquarius 4°50’00
Descendant Pisces 4°37’48
8th House Aries 4°31’45
9th House Taurus 5°45’26
Medium Coeli Gemini 6°16’47
11th House Cancer 5°38’08
12th House Leo 4°50’00
Can someone help meeeee!!!
Wow…great write-up Molly! I’m also a Leo with Venus in Virgo and everything you said above completely rings true for me. It has been a difficult couple of years, but amazingly fruitful and an intense amount of positive change. When Saturn entered Leo I had a huge wakeup call that I was miserable in my life and my own choices were what got me there, but the flip side was I realized I had the power to choose differently and create the life I wanted. Now with Saturn in Virgo (my Venus and my Asc) I find myself really getting to the business of organizing myself so i can pursue creating the life i want as well as focusing on “being the partner I want to be with” and understanding exactly who that might be. It’s interesting to find that what I am drawn to work on intuitively is reflected in transits…it makes me want to learn more and more about astrology! thanks for the insight Molly :)
this is weird, i’m venus virgo, leo sun and all that rings true, loudly. i just started getting into natal astrology haven’t really delved into transits yet, but they seem like they might be more important. can anyone tell me more on the saturn transit, and how long they last and whats ahead for us venus virgo leo’s? or a place that has this info?